In this episode of IN-DEPTH, a new semi-regular interview series with people at the frontiers of deep living, Cal interviews bestselling author Ryan Holiday about the systematic construction of an intentional life. They begin by talking about lessons from Ryan’s new book. RIGHT THING, RIGHT NOW, then go deep on Ryan’s own journey from a college drop-out working in a Hollywood talent agency to becoming a fully independent and massively successful writer and media personality.

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INTERVIEW:

– Ryan Holiday [5:01]

YOUTUBE TITLE

– Stop Pursuing Greatness & Do This Instead (Change Your Life In 2025) | Cal Newport & Kendra Adachi

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